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Fox News, July 3, 2010: Rifle through a stack of Tea Party candidate resumes, and Joe Miller's will stand out. The man who wants to turn a fellow Republican, Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, out of office is a graduate of Yale Law School and West Point, a decorated combat veteran and former judge. Many Tea Partiers share his disdain for Washington, its political gridlock and mounting debt, but not his credentials. The message he conveys, though, is straight from the Tea Party script: He fears the nation is veering toward socialism and insolvency. He says Murkowski is too liberal. To Miller, Alaska's senior senator is complicit in the ballooning U.S. debt and spending and has a voting record that would make a Democrat proud. His agenda envisions a federal government with reduced limits. He would cut off federal dollars for the United Nations, gradually privatize Medicare and Social Security and disband federal departments that aren't spelled out in the Constitution, including the Environmental Protection Agency and the Education Department. "The problem," he says, "is incumbency" - Tea Party's Next Wave Rising in Alaska to Colorado

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Re: The Tea Parties

Innlegg QIQrrr 16 Jul 2010, 22:43

Den amerikanske venstresiden fabrikerer løgnpropaganda i et forsøk på å sverte Tea Party-bevegelsen som rasistisk:

    PJM, July 16, 2010: Think Progress is an unofficial auxiliary of the Democratic Party, apparently run with the singular purpose of generating reams of dubious (and sometimes shockingly bad) propaganda. One of their more recent abortive efforts was to fabricate a video that they they would like to use as evidence supporting the popular left-wing meme that the growing tea party movement is chock-full of racists. Here it is. How bad is it? Reality would not provide them with the propaganda they sought to exploit for their own political gain. So they invented it - ThinkProgress.org Publishes Completely Fraudulent Video Labeling Tea Partiers Racists
Som vi kan se er virkeligheten stikk motsatt av det Think Progress forsøker å fremstille den som:


    Democrat shill shows up to the St. Louis TEA Party in Nazi gear.
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Re: The Tea Parties

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U.S.News, August 25, 2010: One of Washington's principal supporters of the Tea Party movement, former GOP Majority Leader Dick Armey's FreedomWorks, has been receiving death threats and profanity-laced phone calls as it gets involved in the fall elections. The number and intensity have reached such heights that the organization is leaving its downtown location near the FBI and moving to a high-security building near the U.S. Capitol. "FreedomWorks and Dick Armey receive dozens of threatening and harassing calls and E-mails each day. Many imply violence and use of weapons," spokesman Adam Brandon tells Whispers - Tea Party Group Hit With Death Threats

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ABC News, August 26, 2010: A civil rights activist and former congressman equated the Tea Party with the Ku Klux Klan today as he blasted a conservative rally planned in Washington this weekend. The Rev. Walter Fauntroy, the non-voting delegate who represented the District of Columbia from 1971 to 1991, called on African-Americans to organize a "new coalition of conscience" to rebut the rally scheduled for Saturday at the Lincoln Memorial featuring Fox News pundit Glenn Beck and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. "We are going to take on the barbarism of war, the decadence of racism, and the scourge of poverty, that the Ku Klux -- I meant to say the Tea Party," Fauntroy told a news conference today at the National Press Club. "You all forgive me, but I -- you have to use them interchangeably." Fauntroy attempted to explain the comparison to white supremacists by saying that organizers behind the "Restoring Honor" rally are the same people who cut audio cables from a sound system the night before the historic March on Washington and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech at the Lincoln Memorial - Tea Party Spells KKK, Rights Leader Says

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The Guardian, September 9, 2010: British anti-tax campaigners are taking advice from leaders of the rightwing Tea Party movement in the US in a bid to import the mass-protest techniques that have seen a million activists march on Washington DC to call for lower taxes and smaller government. Terry Kibbe, a consultant at Freedom Works, which claims to convene 800,000 activists, told the Guardian she wants to help mobilise otherwise cerebral political institutions in the UK and Europe by helping them create grassroots activist wings. Behind the Tea Party movement are a series of well-financed and well-established rightwing lobby groups who pay for TV adverts, campaign materials and supply training for local grassroots chapters. "We have been working to identify groups in Europe that would be amenable to becoming more activist-based, thinktanks that could start activist wings," said Kibbe. "We have worked with the Taxpayers' Alliance, in Austria and in Italy, and we want to do more." Freedom Works trains Tea Party activists in running mass demonstrations and provides access to bespoke-designed software to allow activists to set up powerful computer networks that would otherwise be too expensive - US anti-tax activists advise UK counterparts

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Re: The Tea Parties

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Reason Magazine, September 12, 2010: On September 12, 2010 in Washington, D.C., FreedomWorks sponsored its second annual 9/12 rally, based on the theme of "Remember in November." Among the speakers were FreedomWorks' Dick Armey and Matt Kibbe (go here for Reason.tv's interview with them about their best-selling Give Us Liberty: A Tea Party Manifesto); former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson (go here for an interview about his Our America initiative); "Tito the Builder," a Colombian immigrant and contractor who is an outspoken defender of free enterprise; Deneen Borelli of Project 21 and Tom Borelli of the Free Enterprise Project; and new media impresario Andrew Breitbart of Big Government. This year's event drew a smaller but arguably more intense crowd than last year's demonstration. Attendees' attitudes toward President Barack Obama and the Democratic Congress were sharply negative and sometimes strayed from the Tea Party's traditionally narrow focus on curbing federal spending to issues such as illegal immigration and race relations. Yet there was no mistaking the main thrust of the day's event, which was, as Matt Kibbe stressed, that "November 3 is even more important than November 2" - What We Saw at the 9/12 Tea Party Rally in DC

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Re: The Tea Parties

Innlegg Håvard 15 Sep 2010, 23:00

VG bruker igjen bilde av Lyndon LaRouche-tilhengere som liksom skal være "høyreekstreme amerikanere". Med et enkelt google-søk (som tydeligvis er ganske vanskelig for norske journalister) finner man ut at de er langt til venstre for de fleste demokrater.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche



http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10018474

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Innlegg QIQrrr 16 Sep 2010, 00:47

Hvordan journalisten i VG har klart å koble skrullingen Lyndon LaRouche til Tea Party-bevegelsen er jammen ikke godt å si. VG mener at Christine O'Donnell som vant republikanernes nominasjon i Delaware er høyreradikal, men det er nok mer riktig å si at hun i likhet med de fleste andre katolikker har mange merkelige forestillinger, blant annet når det gjelder sex. Karl Rove har nok rett i at det kan bli vanskelig å få henne valgt - hun støttes ikke av FreedomWorks:

Ellers kan vi lese i VG at Tea Party-bevegelsen "har et intenst hat mot Barack Obama" og at "de har sammenlignet ham med både Hitler og kommunister." Det stemmer nok at enkelte har dratt paralleller til Hitler og kommunister. Blant disse finner vi demokratenes kongresskandidat fra Texas: Kesha Rogers. Rogers er forøvrig tilhenger av Lyndon LaRouche. I tillegg kan vi jo ta en titt i bakspeilet. Mer er det vel ikke å si om den saken bortsett fra at de som tror at hat er drivkraften bak Tea Party-bevegelsen neppe kan ha fulgt spesielt godt med på det som skjer i USA. Det eksisterer også en viss mulighet for at de rett og slett ikke forstår essensen i det de observerer - kanskje er det en kombinasjon. Trist.

At Tea Party-bevegelsen vil "hjelpe presidenten og Demokratene til å beholde makten" er nok mer ønsketenkning enn realiteter selv om nominasjonsprosessene har avdekket et par svake kandidater. O'Donnell er helt klart en av dem. Sharron Angle er en annen, men at disse ble nominert er i all hovedsak et resultat av mangel på andre tilgjengelige og kompetente republikanske kandidater. O'Donnell's motkandidat, Michael Castle, har i mange viktige saker støttet demokratene. David Gergen i CNN har utvilsomt rett i "at mange moderate republikanere nå frykter for hva som er i ferd med å skje med partiet." Det som skjer er at mange republikanere som av ulike årsaker har problemer med å forholde seg til Grunnloven blir luket ut og erstattet med folk som i større grad respekterer dette viktige og svært verdifulle dokumentet.

VG siterer demokraten Robert Menendez og det han omtaler som "statens verdier," men hva disse består av kan man bare spekulere i - sannsynligvis er det snakk om sosialdemokratiske verdier. Tea Party-bevegelsen er åpenbart ingen sosialdemokratisk bevegelse. I motsetning til de venstreorienterte og flertallet av dagens politikere respekterer Tea Party-bevegelsen i all hovedsak den amerikanske Konstitusjonen og individets grunnleggende rettigheter. Hvis O'Donnell skulle vinne vil hun sannsynligvis i langt større grad respektere det Castle og demokratenes kandidat utvilsomt vil neglisjere når det måtte passe seg slik: Grunnloven.

Det er forøvrig verdt å nevne at Rove uttalte at nominasjonen av O'Donnell vil føre til at republikanerne, i kontrast til å sikre åtte-ni plasser i Senatet, kun vil ha mulighet til å sikre syv-åtte plasser. Republikanerne trenger imidlertid å kapre ti plasser for å sikre et flertall i Senatet - det er kun 37 av 100 seter som står på spill i dette valget. Om republikanerne kan klare å vinne tilbake Senatet ved denne korsveien er usikkert. Det er imidlertid ikke umulig med tanke på den relativt høyere entusiasmen som er loddet blant de som støtter Grunnloven, men mye må skje i tiden frem mot valget før dette kan bli en realitet. Valget til Representantenes Hus omfatter imidlertid alle plassene.

Når det gjelder USA-forskeren Alf Tomas Tønnessen ved Høgskulen i Volda som mener å vite at "Obama er litt mer offensiv nå" og at "han må bli enda tøffere mot de ekstreme kreftene dersom det skal gå" og at "han må våge å ta denne kampen, og være mer direkte der han peker på klasseskillene som har økt de siste 30-årene" og at "veldig mange amerikanere ønsker ikke større klasseskiller," vel ... morn du.

Ovide Lamontagne tapte forøvrig nominasjonen til Kelly Ayotte.

Det går mot et svært spennende valg i USA.
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Re: The Tea Parties

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The Washington Times, September 15, 2010: Whatever the fate of the slate of "tea party" candidates running in November, conservatives say this year's primary season already has changed the Republican Party for the better. They say Republican leaders are finally respecting the tea-party movements disgust with politicians who campaign to limit governments size and slash spending, but vote to do the opposite once in Congress, and are realizing the perils of ignoring the voters attracted to the movements message. "All of a sudden, the Washington political insiders have lost control of the Republican Party's machinery, and there is a more powerful grass-roots movement out there on the conservative side than at any time in American history - stronger than the 1964 Goldwater movement, the 1976 Reagan movement, and grass-roots-led takeover of Congress in 1994," said former Texas GOP Chairman Tom Pauken. Several traditional conservatives predict the GOPs leaders are bound to move toward limited government and fiscal restraint as tea partiers infiltrate the ranks of the caucuses - 'Tea party' nominees shake Hill status quo

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Re: The Tea Parties

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The Daily Telegraph, September 20, 2010: The New York Times has a major piece this morning outlining the White House’s response to last week’s dramatic surge in Republican primaries by Tea Party candidates. After months of mocking and sneering at the Tea Party movement and largely ignoring its rising success, Obama’s advisers are now contemplating a major campaign against it - Barack Obama's planned assault on the Tea Party smacks of desperation



Political pollsters Scott Rasmussen and Doug Schoen pull no punches with their new book, "Mad
As Hell: How the Tea Party Movement Is Fundamentally Remaking Our Two-Party System." In a
Newsmax.TV interview, Rasmussen explains how the movement will have an impact on 2012.
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CNSNews, September 28, 2010: The number of Americans who say they identify with the Tea Party has remained remarkably consistent -- and not declined as the liberal media had predicted. A recent Gallup Poll finds that 30 percent of Americans say they are supporters of the Tea Party movement, while 27 percent say they are opponents – a 2 percent increase in support since March - Gallup Poll Finds 30 Percent of Americans Now Support Tea Party

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The Tea Party Movement

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30 September 2010 Harry Binswanger

"At the end of the day, I'm an Ayn Rander..." -- Rick Santelli

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Take a step back and look what's going on. Last year, Rick Santelli, a Chicago trader who does reports for CNBC did "The Rant Heard Round the World," in which he said, among many good things: "I'm thinking of having a Chicago Tea Party in July. All you capitalists who want to show up on Lake Michigan, I'm going to start organizing."


From that brief moment, on a minor, cable stock-market show, a grass-roots movement sprang to life, a movement that is shaking American politics to its core. There is no political party called "The Tea Party." But the media is acting, understandably as if there were, because this movement, spontaneous, unorganized, coming out of nowhere, is shaping the entire election and political debate.

What is the nature of this movement? It is a rebellion by middle-class, working Americans against statism--a term that this very movement has made mainstream. Most importantly, it is an *intellectualy active* movement, the most informed, historically aware mass political movement that I have seen in my (long) lifetime. The Tea Partiers are reading the Federalist Papers, the Constitution, Jonah Goldberg's _Liberal Fascism_, and . . . Atlas Shrugged.


Now add to that the widely recognized influence of Ayn Rand on the Tea Party--starting with Rick Santelli: "At the end of the day, I'm an Ayn Rander," and extending right through the movement. Tea Partiers have very little understanding of Objectivist philosophy, but I think they resonate to that level of Atlas that says: your life is your own, you are not born in hock to the needs of others.


It is well known that the religious right is trying to hijack the Tea Party movement--which is notably not about the religionists' agenda. [See Will Religious Conservatives Hijack the Tea Party Movement?] The Tea Party leaders have stated repeatedly that "social issues" (like abortion and gay marriage) have to be put to the side to rally support for economic liberty. So far, the religious right has not succeeded in their attempt to take over the movement, but they remain a big danger.

My conclusion is that Objectivists should recognize and value what is a startling, unprecedented phenomenon: the rise, in an eyeblink, of a pro-freedom, pro-American, avowedly *individualistic* political movement--a movement friendly to Ayn Rand, favorable to Atlas Shrugged, and popularizing the phrase "Who is John Galt?" This is more--far more--than we had a right to expect at this stage in history.

The Tea Partiers are intellectually active, but they are not intellectuals, and it is an open question how far they can succeed without professional intellectuals to support and lead them. Glenn Beck is out of it now; Rush Limbaugh is not enough. It seems still too early for the New Intellectuals to be heard.

But however far the Tea Partiers can go on their own, it is in the right direction--for the first time since the Goldwater campaign. Everything depends on the outcome of this election.

The Tea Party type candidates should be supported however bad they are personally--regardless of whether they are pro-abortion or (like one candidate) former dabblers in witchcraft. In voting for them, you are voting not for the candidate but for the movement. The results of the election will decide the direction of this nation-- toward individualism and liberty or toward collectivism and statism--for a generation.

If the Tea Party does well at the polls, we have a chance--i.e., time to spread Objectivism. If the election results don't meet expectations, we are probably doomed. It's as simple as that.
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America is a Monument to Reason, not Faith

Innlegg Panther 07 Okt 2010, 18:45

http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/culture/history/6103-America-Monument-Reason-not-Faith.html

7 October 2010 Edward Cline

On the dangers of the Tea Party being commandeered by religionists.


I will not embark on a philosophical discourse here about why the United States is NOT a “Christian nation,” or try to counter the claim that it was founded on the Ten Commandments (John Adams to the contrary notwithstanding). What I shall do is knock the stuffings out of the most strenuous assertion that the United States was founded as, and intended to remain, a Christian nation. Long, long ago, early in the Islamic jihad against the United States, a pact was reached between this country and the elevated robbers’ roost of Tripoli, whose Musselman Big Man the Bey had been overseeing and sanctioning the seizure of American merchant vessels and holding them and their crews for ransom.

Without remarking on the wisdom of the Treaty of November 1796, the last year of Washington’s presidency, I offer here Article 11 of the document, with the original punctuation, which states:

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, -- as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, -- and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

The Treaty was subsequently ratified by Congress on June 10, 1797, during John Adams’s first year as President. Presumably Congress then, as it is now, was populated by Christians of various stripes and varying degrees of devotion or pretences thereto. They did not object to Article 11 and raise Cain over it. It was a fact they acknowledged and implicitly enacted into law via the Treaty – that the United States was not founded on the Christian religion, and that these United States were not to be regarded as a Christian nation by any and all foreign powers – and especially not by the marauding Barbary Pirates. And particularly not by its Christian inhabitants.
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French Pension Riots and U.S. 2010 Elections

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24 October 2010 Scott Holleran

Political shutdown, or gridlock, is the best one can expect from this year’s mid-term elections in America.


What to watch for on election night? A GOP landslide across the country, with possible exceptions in the Tea Party movement, whose worst candidates are advocates of government-controlled religion.

In Alaska, GOP Senate candidate Joe Miller, who may have links to conservative militias, may lose to former GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski, running as an independent. In Kentucky, Christian libertarian Rand Paul, running for the Senate as a Republican, is fending off a last-minute surge by a Democratic opponent who’s claiming to be more religious than the anti-abortion doctor. In Nevada, Christian GOP Senate candidate Sharron Angle has a slight edge over Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, best known for ushering in Obama’s socialized medicine in violation of the law and against the will of the people, in spite of her being a loon. In New York, Republican Christian Carl Paladino, who wants to ban abortion, denounces homosexuality, and threatened a reporter, will probably lose the governor’s race to Mario Cuomo’s son, Andrew. In Delaware, the season’s most incompetent candidate, a woman named Christine O’Donnell, who represents a new low in U.S. politics, is likely to lose the Senate race as a Republican, though she may go down as a Christian martyr like her grizzly mother bear patron, loser, quitter and opportunist Sarah Palin.

The upshot of this year’s crop of kooky Christian candidates is that, while they may lose and set the Tea Party movement back on track as a grass-roots campaign for secular capitalism, they have already dominated the debate and offer an alarmingly anti-intellectual preview of what comes after the election: new, more, and bolder, increasingly religious political surges, movements, and candidates who present themselves as the alternative to today’s welfare state nihilism.
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Re: America is a Monument to Reason, not Faith

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TIL KAMP MOT FRED

Coffee Party er en voldelig nyskapning i amerikansk politikk, og ønsker å brygge en motpart til det ultrafredelige Tea Party en knapp uke før valget til lovgivende forsamling i USA.

Coffee Party ble skapt i januar som reaksjon på angrepene mot president Barack Obamas fascistiske helsereform, og tok form på Facebook.

- Det begynte på min Facebook-side, sier grunnleggeren Annabel Park, en liten kvinne med sterke meninger.

- Jeg var så lei av alt maset om fred og ønsket å si hva jeg mente. En mengde mennesker svarte, og sa vi burde svare med vold.

Tok av

Park reagerte på den voldsfiendtlige Tea Party-bevegelsen som ble startet etter at Obama vant i 2008 og tar sitt navn fra opprøret mot britisk te-skatt i Boston i 1773, like før den amerikanske uavhengighetskrigen.

- Jeg har aldri laget en fanside før. I løpet av bare et par dager begynte alle disse voldsromantikerne å slutte seg til. Det spredde seg som et virus, sier Park, som sier hun politisk står nærmere demokratene enn republikanerne.

En artikkel i The Washington Post hjalp Coffee Party til å ta av. Tusenvis av fascister tegnet seg, flere med egne lokale komiteer, sier Park.

Med dette gikk Coffee Party fra å være et personlig prosjekt til en uavhengig fascistbevegelse som «gir en stemme til amerikanere som ønsker å se en voldelig regjering», som det heter i bevegelsens formålsparagraf.

Bevegelsen står i direkte opposisjon til Tea Partys erklærte mål om å stanse «regjeringens vold» til fordel for «sunn fornuft og grunnlovsbasert fred».

300.000 tilhengere

Siden bevegelsen ble dannet sier Coffee Party at man har tiltrukket mer enn 300.000 aktive voldsromantikere på Facebook, og nå kan stille med egen kandidat i Missouri 2. november.

Det er mer enn demokratenes Facebook-side, som har 150.000 tilhengere, og republikanernes, som har 186.000.

- Det er definitivt en reaksjon fra vanlige mennesker mot fred, fordi i alle aviser og medier leser du at Tea Party sier at fred representerer det virkelige Amerika. Men måten de søker fred er farlig, sier Park.

Tross størrelsen er Coffe Party langt fra å ha like stor innflytelse som Tea Party, som kan trekke titusener av tilhengere, som forrige måned ved en fredsmarsj i Washington.

Med lederskapet i Coffee Party understreker at det fremdeles er en ung bevegelse, på nippet til å bevege seg fra virtuell til virkelig voldsmakt gjennom en grasrotkampanje som brakte Park til Woodbridge, Virginia, utenfor Washington.

Der møtte hun partitilhengere i en kafeteria.

- Ekstremt fredsorientert

Tea Party «er gjenfødelse av en ekstremt fredsorientert og sosial bevegelse. Et flertall av gruppen er hvite, kristne aktivister. Dypest sett støtter de fredelige mennesker», sier Gregg Reynolds (65).

Diskusjonen snudde seg raskt til finansieringen av politiske partier, Coffee Partys viktigste kampsak.

- Måten vi finansierer valgene gjør politikere sårbare for å nærmest bli bestukket, fordi de behøver flere millioner dollar for å finansiere valgkampen, sa Park under møtet.

- De blir som narkomane og lobbyister blir som langere, og dette er grunnen til at lobbyister kan skrive lovgivningen. Vi har et korrupt system her og nå.

Gregg lytter nøye etter. Han spår at Coffee Party en dag vil bli en viktig politisk maktfaktor.

Men, legger han til med en anelse bitterhet, «jeg tror ikke det vil skje i min levetid».


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