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All in the Islamic Family

Innlegg Panther 17 Jul 2011, 12:59

http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/war-peace/islamic-jihad/6489-all-in-the-islamic-family.html

16 July 2011 Edward Cline

What are the "alien values" that the Saudis wish to keep – and have successfully kept for decades at box-cutter’s length? The supreme value of the individual.

Twenty years before 9/11, when Saudi nationals hijacked American passenger planes and used them as suicide bombs, the West was warned by one of our main enemies of things to come. The warning was announced in an unsigned Reuters article which appeared in April, 1981, in The New York Times: “Saudis Shield Islam From ‘Alien Values.’”

The headline sums up one half of the truth. A subheading may as well have read: “Values Alien to Islam to be Liquidated.”

A page-two heading could also have paraphrased Vladimir Lenin: “Westerners will sell us the rope with which we will subjugate them.”

The physical rope is the oil-production capacity which the barbarians nationalized (pioneered by Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, which then helped to form OPEC in 1960), which the West refrained from reclaiming. The ideological rope is multiculturalism and cultural relativism. Their ultimatum was and remains: If you Westerners insist there is no difference between our cultural and politics and yours, then it can make no difference to you if we take over and set the terms of your existence. You are willing to tolerate the intolerant and the intolerable. That will be your epitaph. We are intolerant of the tolerant. That will be the message of our victory.

The Times article is a fawning puff piece about our less than benevolent extortionist, the royal kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and about its pseudo-angst over how Western values are no match for a medieval, totalitarian ideology that is insulated from any and all threats from Western civilization.


Yes. Saudi Deputy Planning Minister Faisal, quoted early in this commentary, had every reason to be “optimistic.” He believes in “the family.” By “family” he meant the Islamic Ummah or “community” or “brotherhood. Suborning and emasculating the West has been a cakewalk.

Our leaders believe in nothing. Basically, the conflict is between one brand of nihilism and another.
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Organization of Islamic Cooperation Takes on Free Speech

Innlegg Panther 05 Aug 2011, 08:28

http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/law/censorship/6531-organization-of-islamic-cooperation-takes-on-free-speech.html

5 August 2011 Edward Cline

The principle advocates of a move to criminalize the legitimate examination of any religious faith, especially Islam, are globalist One-Worlders who seek to bring the U.S. under their thumb. Their particular “one world” is a global caliphate, with or without United Nations trappings. Their particular bugbear is “Islamophobia” or a legitimate fear of Islam and Sharia law – briefly, of Islamic totalitarianism.

Come, you spirits, that tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me, and fill me from the crown to the toe topful of direst cruelty. (Macbeth, Act 1, Scene 5)
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Re: Islam

Innlegg Panther 05 Aug 2011, 15:56

http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/war-peace/islamic-jihad/6530-the-islamaphobia-smear-and-anders-behring-breivik-s-act-of-terrorism-in-norway.html

The Islamaphobia Smear and Anders Behring Breivik's Act of Terrorism in Norway
1 August 2011 Edward Cline

Anyone who criticizes Islam or Muslims is a bigoted, paranoid fruitcake, just like Breivik? The New York Time's editorial is instructive only in the sense that one can see just how vile, nihilist, and hateful the left can be.

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Re: Islam

Innlegg QIQrrr 07 Aug 2011, 21:33

Hudson New York, August 4, 2011: Muslim countries in the Persian Gulf and North Africa are funnelling large sums of money to radical Islamic groups in towns and cities across Spain in a competing effort to exert control over the estimated 1.5 million Muslims in the country. A newly leaked secret report prepared by Spain's National Intelligence Center (CNI), excerpts of which were published by the Madrid-based El País newspaper on July 31, says the Spanish government is struggling to stop the flow of tens of millions of dollars to Islamic groups in Spain from Kuwait, Libya, Morocco, Oman, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and above all Saudi Arabia. The CNI report states: "The financing is having negative consequences for [multicultural] coexistence in Spain, such as the emergence of parallel societies and ghettos, Islamic courts and police that operate outside of Spanish jurisprudence, removing girls from schools, forced marriages, etc." - Muslim Countries Financing Jihad in Spain
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Re: Islam

Innlegg Panther 12 Aug 2011, 08:38

http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/war-peace/islamic-jihad/6528-naser-abdo-moderate-muslim-plots-jihad-mass-murder-at-fort-hood-texas.html

Naser Abdo: 'Moderate' Muslim Plots Jihad Mass Murder at Fort Hood Texas
11 August 2011 Robert Spencer

Accused of plotting to construct bombs and detonate them in a crowded restaurant full of soldiers from Fort Hood, Naser Abdo admitted his guilt in court last Friday and cried out “Iraq 2006” and “Nidal Hasan Fort Hood 2009”—name-dropping the Islamic jihadist who murdered 13 Americans at Fort Hood in November of that year.
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Re: Islam

Innlegg QIQrrr 25 Sep 2011, 01:31

London Evening Standard, September 25, 2011: Wembley Arena in north-west London was a sea of colourful robes as an estimated 12,000 Muslims gathered to give their backing to a global declaration of peace. Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, founder of the Minhaj-ul-Quran International (MQI) movement, was repeatedly applauded during a speech in which he said the "terrible" 9/11 attacks in the US had distorted perceptions of Islam over the past decade. "In spite of statements and memorandum and condemnation of the terror, the voices of the 99% true, peace-loving Muslims have not been heard, they have been drowned out by the clamour and the noise of extremists," he said. "Islam has nothing to do with any act of terrorism. We reject every act of extremism and terrorism unconditionally" - UK Muslims cheer for global peace
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Re: Islam

Innlegg QIQrrr 08 Jan 2012, 03:05

Maldivenes egentlige utfordring har ingenting med klimaet å gjøre:

    The Sydney Morning Herald, January 7, 2012: The Maldives has a massive youth bulge: 44 per cent of the country is under 14, and 62 per cent under 25, but jobs for any, especially beyond working on a tourist resort, are hard to find. In the atolls, a quarter of all young men are unemployed, half of all young women. The country also has a serious drug problem. An epidemic of cheap heroin has swept through the archipelago, but taken root in Male in particular. The UN has estimated 40 per cent of the country's youth use hard drugs. Nasheed, a Muslim as the Maldives constitution obliges all Maldivians to be, also faces a rising tide of Islamic fundamentalism. Wahhabist Islamic scholars, most schooled in madrassas in Pakistan, are radicalising Islam in the Maldives. Female circumcision is practised, and is reportedly on the increase, across the archipelago. There are calls for the return of amputation for crimes and for the banning of music and dancing. Women are flogged for having extra-marital sex. Every effort to resist this gathering radicalisation is painted by Nasheed's political opponents as an attack on Islam. After Islamist protesters threatened on a website to ''slaughter anybody against Islam'', Nasheed was forced into confrontation: ''Kill me before you kill a fellow Maldivian'' - Maldives faces tides of change
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Re: Islam

Innlegg BHS 18 Des 2014, 20:29

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Koranen inneholder 6236 vers. Her er en kvalitetsanalyse av innholdet i disse versene:

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Antall vers som inneholder godhet: 78 stk – 1,25% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder opplagt urettferdighet: 769 stk – 12,3% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder intoleranse: 537 stk – 8,6% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder grusomheter: 532 stk – 8,5% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder absurditeter: 239 stk – 3,8% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder kvinnediskriminering / kvinnehat: 68 stk – 1,1% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder feilaktig historie og vitenskap: 49 stk – 0,8% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder opplagt negative familieverdier: 28 stk – 0,45% av versene

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Hvis dere ønsker å etterprøve disse tallene, kan det enkelt gjøres ved å gå inn på http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm

Det politisk korrekte syn er som følger: Koranen (og dermed Islam) er stort sett godheten selv; det er bare noen ganske få ekstremister (Irans prestestyre, ISIL, Al-Qaida o.l.) som bevisst feiltolker Islam i negativ retning for å mele sin egen kake politisk.

Ovenstående analyse viser at Koranen (og dermed Islam) så langt fra er godheten selv, men tvert imot kan være kilden til mye av den ondskapen vi ser i mange Islam-dominerte land.

Dersom vi (for Koranen) summerer antall vers som inneholder grusomheter, opplagt urettferdighet og intoleranse og dividerer på antall vers som inneholder godhet, for vi en faktor på 23,5 (denne faktoren bør jo være minst mulig). Dersom vi gjør samme analysen for Det Nye Testamentet får vi en faktor på 4,2 (heller ikke mye å skryte av), men betydelig bedre enn for Koranen. Slik sett er NT 5,6 ganger bedre enn Koranen (eller Koranen 5,6 ganger verre enn NT om vi vil se det på den måten).

(Det nye testamentet , 7540 vers
Antall vers som inneholder godhet: 152 stk - 2,0% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder opplagt urettferdighet: 315 stk – 4,2% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder intoleranse: 163 stk - 2,2% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder grusomheter: 164 stk - 2,2% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder absurditeter: 679 stk - 9,0% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder kvinnediskriminering / kvinnehat: 59 stk – 0,8% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder feilaktig historie og vitenskap: 149 stk - 2,0% av versene
Antall vers som inneholder opplagt negative familieverdier: 59 stk – 0,8% av versene)
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Re: Islam

Innlegg Vegard Martinsen 21 Des 2014, 07:43

En annen type analyse sier at man skal gå til essensen, og da er det lett å se at islam krever at man skal underordne seg det guden sier (ordet "islam" betyr underkastelse), og dette innebærer at man ikke skal tenke selv, men adlyde - hvis man ikke adlyder får man en evig straff etter at man er død.


Adlydelse kan da innebære enkelte tilfeller av godhet, me også at man skal "drepe de vantro hvor man enn måtte finne dem".


But when the sacred months are passed away, kill the idolaters wherever ye may find them; and take them, and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in every place of observation; but if they repent, and are steadfast in prayer, and give alms, then let them go their way; verily, God is forgiving and merciful.

Vers 9:5, http://www.thequran.com/Read/Verse/9/1/10/22
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Re: Islam

Innlegg Erik 10 Jan 2015, 20:52

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Re: Islam

Innlegg BHS 13 Jan 2015, 19:18

Vegard Martinsen skrev:(ordet "islam" betyr underkastelse)

...... og Mussolinins motto var "Ingen diskusjon, bare lydighet". Det er lett å se likheten mellom Islams essens og Fascismens essens.

Det finnes absolutt moderate muslimer, men det finnes også modererte fascister: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianfranco_Fini, men jeg får ikke så veldig stor sympati for fascismen av den grunn.
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Re: Islam

Innlegg Erik 24 Mar 2016, 23:29

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Re: Islam

Innlegg Ultima_Thule 26 Okt 2017, 23:00

Why do Muslims seem to be involved in more violence?
Six theories from “The Clash of Civilizations.”
Devin Foley | September 19, 2016 - Artikkel
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