Utnytte støtteordninger og lovverket fullt ut?

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Re: Utnytte støtteordninger og lovverket fullt ut?

Innlegg PAMENTAS 05 Jan 2010, 00:52

Fettsnerk skrev:Er politi en produktiv jobb per i dag?
Det er mulig de krenker/skader mer enn de beskytter, mtp det sosialdemokratiske/kollektivistiske lovverket de håndhever.
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Re: Utnytte støtteordninger og lovverket fullt ut?

Innlegg Skatteflyktning 10 Jan 2010, 00:49

Fettsnerk skrev:Er politi en produktiv jobb per i dag?


Utvilsomt er de producktive for staten. Uten Politi ville ingen betale skatt :D
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Re: Utnytte støtteordninger og lovverket fullt ut?

Innlegg Vegard Martinsen 10 Jan 2010, 07:43

Skatteflyktning skrev:
Fettsnerk skrev:Er politi en produktiv jobb per i dag?


Utvilsomt er de producktive for staten. Uten Politi ville ingen betale skatt :D


Det bruker også noe tid på å ta tyver og mordere.
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Re: Utnytte støtteordninger og lovverket fullt ut?

Innlegg Skatteflyktning 11 Jan 2010, 02:58

Vegard Martinsen skrev:
Skatteflyktning skrev:
Fettsnerk skrev:Er politi en produktiv jobb per i dag?


Utvilsomt er de producktive for staten. Uten Politi ville ingen betale skatt :D


Det bruker også noe tid på å ta tyver og mordere.


Skalkesjul eller bijobb?
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Re: Utnytte støtteordninger og lovverket fullt ut?

Innlegg Ultima_Thule 09 Feb 2015, 15:38

Amund Farberg skrev:Mitt syn er at hvis du blir trukket skatt, så kan du uten skam benytte deg av velferdstjenester og støtteordninger.


For uansett summer i ubestemt tid?

The Moocher Hall of Fame Is Getting Crowded

If the Moocher Hall of Fame ever moves from the virtual world to brick-and-mortar reality, it’s going to need a lot of space.

That’s because, to use a politically correct term, many of the featured freeloaders are plus-sized.

    Stanley looks like a rather robust eater, which is somewhat disturbing on more than one level since he gets disability checks that allow him to fulfill his fantasy of wearing diapers and being an “adult baby.”
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    Lazy Robert doesn’t look like he misses many meals, and he obviously has plenty of time to enjoy fine dining in Copenhagen since he proudly brags that he’s been living off Danish taxpayers for about 15 years.
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    Christina’s handouts are so generous that she’s had enough money to eat her way into a size-26 dress, yet she has the gall to complain that taxpayers won’t subsidize a gym membership.
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Now we have another plus-sized honoree. Or, in this case, honorees.

That’s because the U.K.-based Telegraph is reporting on a mother-daughter team that is living large at taxpayer expense.

A mother and daughter who get £34,000 a year in handouts because they are too fat to work say they’d rather be happy and on benefits than depressed and thin. Janice and Amber Manzur weigh a total of 43 stone and are so overweight they have to use mobility scooters to get around.But both women refuse to diet… Ms Manzur lives in a three-bedroom house that has been customised by the council to accommodate her disability and drives a Fiat Quibo disability car worth around £15,000. …The two women, from Kirkcaldy, Fife, jointly receive close to £33,600 benefits a year. That’s the equivalent of a £46,000 salary before tax. …She gets £400 Employment and Support Allowance a month and £430 to cover the rent on her flat. Miss Manzur also gets disability allowance because she is obese and has recurring problems with her leg.


The entitlement mentality is what makes this pair special.

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She said: “People shouldn’t judge me or my mum for how big we are because it’s in our genes. “I’ve never been on a diet or to a gym and I don’t even eat that much junk food. It’s my natural build to be this big and I’m happy to not work anymore. We can’t help it, so why bother fighting it?” …Ms Manzur started claiming benefits in 2006 when she left her job as a manager in a call centre because of weight-related health problems. She was forced to argue her case for disability pay after a tribunal claimed if she wanted to work she could lose weight. Ms Manzur won and now gets £620 Employment and Support Allowance and £320 Disability Living Allowance a month. …Miss Manzur’s council-paid flat has been modified to cater for her disability. It has no stairs, a low front door so she can drive her disability scooter inside and a bath with a seat for easy access. The two women are able to spend much of their free time together. Janice said: “We live less than a mile apart. I have the car, so I drive round to her or pick her up. We spend a lot of time together and often go out on our matching mobility scooters. “I watch telly a lot and I also like reading and I recently brought a Kindle with my benefits.”


I’m sure British taxpayers are happy that they’re subsidizing matching scooters, kindles, special cars, redesigned flats, and other goodies that enable the Manzurs to live an unhealthy lifestyle.

By the way, my concern isn’t that the Manzurs eat a lot. As far as I’m concerned, people should eat as much or as little as they like and be whatever size floats their boat. Moreover, I’m in no position to throw stones since I should drop at least 15 pounds.

But I do get very agitated when bad government policies subsidize bad behavior. And the bad behavior I’m referring to is indolence, not over-eating.

Though it’s easy to see why the Manzurs got sucked into a welfare lifestyle. They’re getting the equivalent of more than $50,000 per year to “watch telly” and eat.

But if they chose productive behavior, they would get hit with punitive taxes and have less disposable income (we have the same self-destructive policy in America, and it’s getting worse thanks to Obamacare).

In other words, the Manzurs are responding to bad incentives. You get to live a better lifestyle if you goof off all day.

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P.S. The Brits actually have a reality-TV program called Benefits Street, which shows how redistribution ruins lives and creates inter-generational dependency.

P.P.S. British taxpayers at least can be thankful that the U.S. government wasn’t in charge of procuring the kindle for Ms. Manzur.

P.P.P.S. And British taxpayers can also be thankful that the government has recently implemented some welfare reforms that are encouraging work over dependency.

P.P.P.P.S. Though to end on a grim note, the government-run healthcare system in the United Kingdom remains unchanged and is the source of numerous horror stories.

https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2 ... g-crowded/ (med hyperlenker)
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